Episode 072: Reshaping Structures in Education and Life with Natalie Chan Pt. 1
Hi Pilgrim,
On episode 72 of Beyond the Pale Tammy and I sit down with Natalie Chan, Director of OWN Academy in Hong Kong. Natalie is on the forefront of rethinking traditional structures regarding education but as we learn in this episode, educational structures impact so many areas of society including race, culture, and justice just to name a few.
Natalie starts the episode by sharing her journey; she describes how a shy Chinese girl from Hong Kong who, by her own admission, struggled with English went on to become an accomplished and respected entrepreneur who is helping shape new paradigms for the 21st century.

Natalie & Tammy
Along the way she shares about participating in the 10,000 mile Mongol Rally where she and two teammates drove from Europe to Mongolia for charity and adventure.
Go Beyond the Pale with Natalie Chan!
Peace,
Steve & Tammy
iTunes Description: Natalie Chan is an educator and entrepreneur who is helping to rethink and reshape new ways of learning for the 21st century. She shares her story of entering the corporate world only to then see a different path leading her to addressing areas of justice and the betterment of society through new educational paradigms.
Show Notes
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Intro Music: Ventura Tyler Bates
Featured Music: Don’t Look Back in Anger Oasis
Episode Index:
1:12 Intro to episode with Steve & Tammy
9:50: What pulls us away from what we are used to?
17:00- Natalie’s story begins
28:00 – Opening our mind to other cultures
35:00- Entering the corporate world
36:40- Creating opportunity despite rejection
49:36- How do we learn?
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